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what's up everybody happy tuesday

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i'm gonna have to think of different

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things to say for each day because i

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can't just say happy monday happy

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tuesday

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wednesday because maybe it's not happy

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maybe it's close to happy or maybe it's

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bad

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either way it's going to be great uh

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uh was that a beatles uh inspired song

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uh no not necessarily it actually

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started uh

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as like a blues riff thing

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and then it just got out of control so

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um but yeah we have a great guest

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uh today um i'm a little nervous because

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this guy is so good at

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what he does and i imagine he's probably

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be judging me in his head the whole time

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so

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andy from that ufo podcast what's up

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dude

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i am awesome um so i've made a few notes

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on your intro for a start

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i just pretend i said to you just before

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we hit record i just make this up as i

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go along and

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you make mistakes and you fix them don't

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you so but yeah no it's uh good to be on

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and thanks for inviting me i know you

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invited me a few weeks ago and it's uh

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been a few weeks wait so i've been

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watching some of the pods and stuff and

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it's been good man good well i'm happy

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you're here

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um you know there's plenty of reasons

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that i could you know i guess there's

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varied reasons i could use as far as why

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i'm here doing this

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um maybe i can think of five but you're

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one of them man um

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that's for sure uh with the big phone

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home and uap media

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um and you have been so kind the whole

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i'm very grateful that uh you're here so

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thank you so much

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thanks i like to think that um it's it's

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less that i'm really good at what i do

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i think um it's more a case of

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people look and go look if that guy can

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do it then i can do it which you know if

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yeah if that inspires people then then

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yeah brilliant but no it's

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it's been great like i followed you for

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quite a while on twitter and stuff as

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it's just taking the plunge isn't it and

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seeing what works for you and

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you know you come into your chat and you

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see all these people sitting waiting to

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speak to you and stuff like it's co

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yeah it's uh you know i'm i'm not

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i'm trying to not over try first of all

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i i know what i kind of like about what

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you do is it just seems so

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natural to you like you don't have to

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force anything

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um in those kind of natural

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conversations that's what i like to

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listen to because it's real it's

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um so now that you're here

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i want to pick your brain a little bit

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if that's all right

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no um you have talked to so many people

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thing and outside of it i know you got a

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different podcast too that you do

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um but as far as the ufo stuff you've

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talked to so many different people

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with different perspectives do you find

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a commonality within it all

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no i find it quite quite divided um

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like there's different sections and

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there's like the the old-school

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crew who can't let go of it's not the

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90s or the 80s anymore and

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internet came along and changed a lot of

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things and message boards came up

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years things exploded and i think the

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whole scene changed

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feel there was a fork in the road in

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2017 with the two of the stars lola's on

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doctor's mail and stuff

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and and some people chose to go down one

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node there would be are kind of one now

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and you're starting this show and we

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start my podcast and other people

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what happens and then other people

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it's just another false narrative and

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you know the government's done this

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all that kind of stuff um but i just

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can't help but see the amount of

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people it's i still feel there's a lot

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of divided

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opinion amongst folk which which is fine

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conversation as well but you just have

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to stay open-minded

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how how many differences there are

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enough uh strength

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to kind of just put that to the side to

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try to get past the goal line here

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because we're so close at least as far

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in the u.s

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you know it's getting some disclosure

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and it's it's just too bad that people

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have to hang on so hard to believes that

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aren't really quite proven

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um and that kind of throws a wrench into

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things i think sometimes

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you know i i love my analogies with

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stuff right and this will probably go

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really badly like most of them do but

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the way the way i'm kind of seeing it

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more and more as when it comes to ufos

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or uaps whatever you want to call the

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topic right i know a lot of people don't

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like ufology because it has certain

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it's like when you get into a new tv

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show okay some people watched it from

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the first episode airing and followed

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the journey of the tv show all the way

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some people watched it grow in

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popularity

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and then jumped in halfway through and

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back to the start and then some people

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waited till it was finished and binged

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all the series at once

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so everyone comes into it with different

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you know we don't have the benefit yet

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what we're kind of living just now

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a lifelong interest in terms of

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being involved the way i am now you know

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which is amazing and weird still for me

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um i've come into in the middle when a

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lot of other people have done a lot of

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hard work before me

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to get to this point and i get why some

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of the people who were involved before

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whether they believe what i believe or

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not are a little bit put out by that

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i use the analogy before as well of like

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your favorite band you love them before

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and everyone likes them you kind of not

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anymore and people just have that

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and going to that show no that's where

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all the like kids are ready i'm not

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the [\h__\h] ep was great yeah the first

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like math smells totally yeah that's the

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a lot of people don't want to find out

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the answer to what's going on maybe

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not for me but yeah well

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be mystery to your life pretty much

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um but people need to find mystery in

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in other places because there's so many

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something he said really stuck with me

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which was uh you don't have to lose

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to this you know um go in a quiet room

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what you want from this

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you know he's like i got what i want i

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just wanted to know that it was real

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and i think that's really important

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because how crazy stuff is how much

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information like being blasted at us now

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with this stuff i think it's gonna be

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to ground yourself

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before you go any further you know yeah

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and that's that you're you're right and

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some people it it involves our whole

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life and it's it's everything and i'm

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you know i'm deeply involved in the

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subject and i love it and i

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i want to know and for me there'll be a

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lot more questions after that last

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episode as far as this is concerned it's

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this is what the phenomenon is you know

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okay where's it from what

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what's that history been like why is it

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here it just opens up a whole other

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other realm of questioning which is

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which is great um

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i'm going to keep thinking of all these

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analogies now i should write them down

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computer games and stuff but i'll do

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just just write them down like an

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analogy special show where

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you go back and forth or something yeah

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um

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but like like sean said it's it's find

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what you want from it and for me it's

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i've got a life as well and like when

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i'm responding to people on social media

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like i'll be in the supermarket with my

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kids like

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you know just pushing a trolley and

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writing back to someone and it's like

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i'm not always in this room like um

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texting

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or on social media yeah yeah it's very

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warm as well

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the scottish thing that's permanently

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depressed but yeah and so for me it's

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like

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it's it's going to fit in with your life

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and it's got to fit in with your life

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and

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i don't have that voice either no no

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yeah but uh

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the the best we can do is try to make

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our own sense out of it

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absolutely you know um

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you had uh paulo harris was it on

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yeah yeah um

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she's interesting that's for sure i'd

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have to say

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i've haven't really looked too much into

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her i thought the podcast episode was

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great

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it made me cringe a little bit when she

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related something to 9 11.

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yeah i didn't think that was but you

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now she's kind of into is she into the

320
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consciousness as well as

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like field reports and stuff ah yeah

322
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um she she's done some work in the past

323
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and i'm not the expert on this

324
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yeah on like the gifting field and all

325
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that kind of stuff

326
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and uh but yeah do you know what looking

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back on

328
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on that particular interview there was

329
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some stuff i could have done better

330
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and my own worst critic on it and i

331
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should have followed up a bit more on

332
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some things but

333
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uh we had baby coming along at the time

334
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and it was

335
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permanent huge chaoticness but yeah as

336
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poor i should do my own follow-up on it

337
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um yeah how is the kid by the way

338
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yeah he's great he's he's the the least

339
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of the trouble of the children it's the

340
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the older ones that just don't sleep now

341
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um but yeah he's been great uh but yeah

342
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paola was really interesting and it was

343
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good of her to give me some of her time

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because

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i know she wasn't doing a lot of

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interviews um

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and and i definitely took on board

348
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people's points that

349
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there were some arguments that she had

350
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that didn't

351
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necessarily hold up like i asked a few

352
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times about

353
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the the weight of the testimony given

354
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and she just kept going back to the fact

355
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yeah but their kids kids don't lie and i

356
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was like yeah but you weren't speaking

357
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to the kids you were speaking to

358
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to adults in their 60s and 70s and 80s

359
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right you they were children when the

360
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story happened

361
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they aren't children now and that that

362
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was a big bonus intention and i should

363
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have known better than to i should have

364
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pushed a bit further on that one

365
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well you know what i was thinking of

366
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when you were doing that interview

367
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is um some people seem to be aware of it

368
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some aren't but there's

369
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actually a first-person testimony book

370
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written by those kids

371
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okay um that and i found that

372
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interesting because

373
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the way they promote their book they

374
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promote it as the first

375
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you know telling of the story whatever

376
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and that's not true

377
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there's a book called uh i think it's

378
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like on the

379
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on the edge of tomorrow or something but

380
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there's

381
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only one that exists like you'll see it

382
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in amazon but it's not for sale or

383
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anything

384
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okay there's only one that exists in the

385
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new mexico public library

386
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so that's very interesting i want to go

387
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get that

388
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because there may be a reason i think

389
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with all the research they've done you

390
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would think they have

391
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read that book so it's just interesting

392
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that they wouldn't mention that

393
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but you know what's more surprising

394
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because i never knew that for me then

395
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and this is where like

396
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i'm not an expert in this subject i

397
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never claim to be

398
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the people online who are experts i

399
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never saw anyone mention that and

400
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there's usually a lot of really good

401
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people

402
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who are really quick on this that as

403
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soon as you saw that being mentioned

404
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i'm amazed i've never saw that so that's

405
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a really good find

406
00:14:02,949 --> 00:14:00,160
yeah um well the the ufo joe

407
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i think had posted something about it

408
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initially

409
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and that's how i saw it and i just

410
00:14:09,430 --> 00:14:07,760
looked further into it and tried to like

411
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get my hands on it and it wasn't

412
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anywhere i even called the library and

413
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said hey uh

414
00:14:18,949 --> 00:14:17,120
do you sell books

415
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she's like no we're a library i'm like

416
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well god damn it

417
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you should just ask them can you post it

418
00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:24,079
out and you promise you'll return that

419
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like

420
00:14:29,590 --> 00:14:27,279
yeah right oh man but uh there might be

421
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something in that book that's for sure

422
00:14:34,389 --> 00:14:32,560
um so anyone in new mexico if you get

423
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that book from me

424
00:14:38,949 --> 00:14:37,040
i'll pay you back with a soda pop yeah

425
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i'll i'll chip in a ten dollar donation

426
00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:41,199
for sean to give you as well so soda pop

427
00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:43,680
and ten dollars there you go

428
00:14:47,269 --> 00:14:45,600
what's the main difference to you when

429
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you're interviewing someone that's

430
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more in the consciousness realm than the

431
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nuts and butts

432
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my first like

433
00:15:02,710 --> 00:14:59,600
uh blooper like a young lego

434
00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:02,720
ufo candy yeah um

435
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well you know like other than the

436
00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:06,079
obvious you know

437
00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:08,240
like the way they think or research

438
00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:10,079
stuff or

439
00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:12,560
consciousness that that side of it seems

440
00:15:15,829 --> 00:15:14,399
to have become a lot more popular not to

441
00:15:17,509 --> 00:15:15,839
say it wasn't involved in a subject

442
00:15:19,030 --> 00:15:17,519
beforehand but especially in the last

443
00:15:20,949 --> 00:15:19,040
kind of five or ten years

444
00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:20,959
and i think there's people who like like

445
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jack valley and others

446
00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:25,279
who pioneered that conversation who

447
00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:27,040
maybe kept a little bit quieter about it

448
00:15:30,629 --> 00:15:28,079
when they were trying to have those

449
00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:30,639
initial conversations and you can see

450
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why now it's more of a conversation i

451
00:15:35,189 --> 00:15:33,199
think even

452
00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:35,199
on the mainstream media i don't think

453
00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:36,959
we're too far away from getting people

454
00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:37,279
like

455
00:15:41,509 --> 00:15:40,079
sean cahill potentially talking about it

456
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but they don't know it's not that the

457
00:15:44,629 --> 00:15:42,880
time to be doing that

458
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i'm gonna get the data first get

459
00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:46,639
everyone to buy in yeah i'm always

460
00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:47,600
interested though

461
00:15:50,710 --> 00:15:49,759
in the crossover between people who are

462
00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:50,720
very

463
00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:52,880
nuts and bolts to its consciousness

464
00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:55,839
because it seems to be a mix of both

465
00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:56,880
and that's that's where like the

466
00:15:59,590 --> 00:15:58,800
phenomenon itself seems to be under this

467
00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:59,600
umbrella

468
00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:01,199
it's not just and i was having this

469
00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:03,040
conversation on twitter today

470
00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:04,800
people are like oh why are they here

471
00:16:07,829 --> 00:16:06,079
okay so who is they

472
00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:07,839
because are you assuming they're all

473
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from one place i.e one planet one

474
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reality one dimension

475
00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:13,440
when potentially it's multiple planets

476
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multiple realities multiple dimensions

477
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some of them crypto some of them ultra

478
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terrestrial

479
00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:20,880
it might be all of this and this is why

480
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it's so hard to to pin

481
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down and nail the point so that's where

482
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if you've got that yeah well it's nuts

483
00:16:29,509 --> 00:16:28,399
and bolts and they're flying here in

484
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saucers a million

485
00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:32,079
million million miles okay but what

486
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about orbs

487
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and what about spirits and what about

488
00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:38,160
the psychic aspect of it and

489
00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:39,839
it's it's trying to get across that you

490
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:41,680
know it's got to be more than

491
00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:43,600
just one line of thinking yeah because

492
00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:45,680
at the minute we could all be wrong

493
00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:48,000
everyone right now could be wrong yeah

494
00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:49,360
we don't know who's right

495
00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:51,600
well probably there's a little truth to

496
00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:53,360
everything you know

497
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:54,720
put it together you might have a clear

498
00:16:57,189 --> 00:16:56,480
picture but that's something i keep

499
00:16:59,590 --> 00:16:57,199
thinking of

500
00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:59,600
is like the things we see or the things

501
00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:00,800
i've seen

502
00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:02,880
um is that the same stuff that we're

503
00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:04,240
being shown in videos

504
00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:05,520
you know because it really doesn't feel

505
00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:08,319
like it and i think that kind of goes to

506
00:17:12,789 --> 00:17:10,720
your point which is

507
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:12,799
you know there's probably a lot of stuff

508
00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:14,160
that we're dealing with here

509
00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:16,880
especially if one dimensional or

510
00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:18,079
whatever can make its way

511
00:17:22,309 --> 00:17:20,720
here then you can say well why can't

512
00:17:24,470 --> 00:17:22,319
others

513
00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:24,480
you know i was talking about this

514
00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,919
yesterday and you know it's like

515
00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:27,360
all these weird like theories and stuff

516
00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:28,559
like that but when you get thinking

517
00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:30,000
about it i was like

518
00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:32,480
you remember the tv show quantum leap oh

519
00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:33,039
yeah

520
00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:34,880
like what about the idea of like what if

521
00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,480
some of these beings and the reason we

522
00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:38,240
don't see them come out the craft

523
00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:40,160
is because they can't come out the craft

524
00:17:44,470 --> 00:17:42,160
and that they're literally in that craft

525
00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:44,480
it's almost a window to our reality

526
00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:47,200
so we see it but it's just a vessel for

527
00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:48,640
them to be here they can't come out of

528
00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:50,880
it because they're not physically here

529
00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:52,799
and that's why some of these craft are

530
00:17:56,070 --> 00:17:54,240
where they are then you've got some of

531
00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:56,080
them that are probably drones i.e the

532
00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:57,120
tic-tac

533
00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:59,039
i would look at the way that performs

534
00:18:02,390 --> 00:18:00,720
moves and everything else that it's a

535
00:18:03,669 --> 00:18:02,400
drone and it's scanning and

536
00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:03,679
it's just kind of messing about and

537
00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:05,360
that's why it does what it does and then

538
00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:07,280
you've got the craft like the the gimbal

539
00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:08,320
craft that

540
00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:11,120
seems to be more nuts and bolts and

541
00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:12,559
moves and it might be under a more

542
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,720
intelligent control so

543
00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:16,799
i i i find that fascinating and that's

544
00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:18,480
what i've said to at the start like

545
00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:21,360
when we find out and i use the word when

546
00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:23,039
a bit more of what's going on it just

547
00:18:27,029 --> 00:18:24,960
opens up a whole lot more

548
00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:27,039
line of questioning which is great for

549
00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:28,400
people like me and you

550
00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:31,840
yeah no um yeah that that is very

551
00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:32,400
interesting

552
00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:34,000
another thing i was thinking about is

553
00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:35,840
like you know

554
00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:37,919
and i know it's all speculation and

555
00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:39,520
we're definitely putting carts in front

556
00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:41,360
of horses here but

557
00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:43,760
yeah but you know that's kind of half

558
00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:44,799
the fun for me

559
00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:48,000
um you know a reflection maybe of your

560
00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:48,960
consciousness

561
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:52,480
like when you uh meditate

562
00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:54,720
um again i hate to bring them up but try

563
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:56,240
shocking

564
00:19:01,110 --> 00:18:58,080
you know you got this astral vehicle or

565
00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:01,120
whatever um could that be

566
00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:03,440
you know maybe you meditating and i see

567
00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:05,039
your consciousness or somebody else or

568
00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,840
whatever

569
00:19:09,029 --> 00:19:07,919
it's pretty interesting you know i

570
00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:09,039
thought even like you go into like the

571
00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:10,720
realm of like dreams and you know what

572
00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:12,080
is a dream and where do you go when you

573
00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:14,160
dream because dreaming is crazy like

574
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:15,919
it's a this is such a weird thing that

575
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:17,600
we still know so little about

576
00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:20,000
um and i love the idea of the like you

577
00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:22,000
say projecting consciousness and

578
00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,200
that's where a lot of the theories

579
00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:25,280
around genuine abductions are

580
00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:27,520
that your your physical body wouldn't

581
00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:29,360
necessarily leave the place

582
00:19:32,789 --> 00:19:30,799
and a lot of these are conscious

583
00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:32,799
experiences and that's where if you have

584
00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:35,760
missing time maybe your body didn't go

585
00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:38,240
you know and it's just literally the

586
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,240
conscious aspect of it which is why it's

587
00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:42,240
you know telepathic and the way these

588
00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:43,679
seem to be almost dreamlike and

589
00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:45,039
everything's really bright and

590
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:47,440
it's almost that spirit world people see

591
00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:48,240
when they die

592
00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:50,000
is you're just opening up that door a

593
00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:51,280
little bit more which is

594
00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:53,679
a really cool conversation to have but

595
00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:54,640
yeah but

596
00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:56,720
uh you know there's so many rabbit holes

597
00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:57,679
you can go down

598
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:00,080
so make sure it's worth it before you do

599
00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:02,240
have you always been into this stuff

600
00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:03,520
like since you're a kid have you been

601
00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:05,360
into it and everything yeah since i was

602
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:06,080
really young yeah

603
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:08,799
um had a couple i had like a one big

604
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:10,320
sight when i was a kid um

605
00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,799
but i was interested in like world

606
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:14,240
mysteries and

607
00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:16,400
not necessarily the paranormal side of

608
00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:18,240
things like i'm scared of ghosts right

609
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:19,840
i've always said i don't want to see

610
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:21,760
ghosts i believe there are spirits and

611
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:22,720
stuff like that

612
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:24,400
not for me no thank you right i don't

613
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:26,480
even like the dark still at 35

614
00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:29,840
um but i um i love things like the

615
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:31,840
pyramids how they were built you know

616
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,640
how they line up to the stars and and

617
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:36,240
that's crazy

618
00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:38,080
loch ness as a kid being scottish i've

619
00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:39,760
mentioned before like i was interested

620
00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:41,360
in nessie and loch ness and that was a

621
00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:42,400
big thing i mean

622
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:44,559
and i think ufos and aliens were always

623
00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:45,840
just part of that so

624
00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:48,640
i had the the satan when i was the new

625
00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:50,000
podcast logo i've got

626
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:51,840
that's a kind of representation roughly

627
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:53,520
of of what i saw and when i was about

628
00:20:57,029 --> 00:20:54,159
10.

629
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:57,039
um and dan's just done the for anyone

630
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,039
watching like the new patch

631
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:01,039
but it's like and i show you this

632
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:02,400
because that's what the object looked

633
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:02,720
like

634
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:06,159
um maybe a little smaller on the kind of

635
00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:08,080
under the tree bank and it was spinning

636
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,440
really really fast

637
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:11,039
but there was five of us saw that like

638
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:13,200
my let's say before my mum was there who

639
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,919
doesn't

640
00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:15,520
has no interest in ufos and aliens

641
00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:17,360
doesn't believe there's such a thing

642
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:19,840
but she saw that with me and still just

643
00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:21,679
goes yeah you don't know what it was

644
00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:24,240
yeah isn't it weird i saw something uh

645
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:25,120
with my wife

646
00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:28,640
uh these two like uh orange orb things

647
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:30,880
and she saw it first and told me to come

648
00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:33,280
outside and look at it before i miss it

649
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,880
and i go outside and look at it and

650
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:36,480
we're both like wow wow

651
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:38,000
you know a couple weeks go by and she's

652
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:40,240
like yeah who knows what that was

653
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:43,120
oh no i'm like what it was like 50 feet

654
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,880
above us

655
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,640
it's it's just interesting how people

656
00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:48,559
try to almost talk themselves

657
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:51,679
out of it because if they try to take it

658
00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:52,400
on

659
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:55,120
it's overwhelming yeah you know and

660
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:56,720
that's why you see the struggle to

661
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:58,080
correlate that to a mainstream

662
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,600
conversation because

663
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:01,280
if that's how those people react when

664
00:22:04,650 --> 00:22:03,120
they are physically looking at something

665
00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:04,660
unknown then

666
00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:06,159
[Music]

667
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,600
when you try and have that conversation

668
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:09,360
off look at this video of the sphere

669
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:11,039
entering the water well yeah it's just a

670
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:12,640
balloon could be anything

671
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:14,080
oh look look at the pure footage and

672
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:16,080
look at the camera quality it's infrared

673
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:17,600
it's 11 o'clock at night all that kind

674
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,200
of stuff yeah it doesn't matter to them

675
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:20,880
because it's so easy just to dismiss the

676
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,960
conversation and that's where

677
00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:24,799
a lot of it and you mentioned uap media

678
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:26,640
for especially from a uk point of view

679
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,840
we just want people having that

680
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:30,000
conversation we're not making waves and

681
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:31,440
shouting about aliens or

682
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,960
spaceships or anything like that we just

683
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:34,720
want people to look and go no no

684
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:36,799
take a second look at this article take

685
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:38,240
a second look at this website

686
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,080
take a second look at this footage

687
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:42,000
forget about the your preconceived

688
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:43,679
notions of little green men and all that

689
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:44,720
kind of stuff

690
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,919
what is this forget aliens just it's not

691
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:49,600
asm we've got people who run this stuff

692
00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:50,400
saying look

693
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:52,159
we can pretty much guarantee you this is

694
00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:53,520
not our technology

695
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:56,240
and even then if it is where's it come

696
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:56,559
from

697
00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:58,880
how can we now travel at 13 000 miles an

698
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:00,960
hour how can these objects move through

699
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:04,159
space air and sea you know that's that's

700
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:06,159
an incredible leap and if as ours if it

701
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:08,080
is still secret us tech or russian or

702
00:23:11,669 --> 00:23:08,880
chinese or

703
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,679
estonian finnish whatever then where did

704
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:13,840
they get the technology from

705
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,559
because that is such a generational leap

706
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:17,919
and it's like i said before it's like

707
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:18,720
going from the

708
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:21,280
the cup on a string to an iphone 40

709
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,559
that's the kind of leap you're looking

710
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:24,240
in technology here so it's

711
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,080
and it's basically before we even had

712
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:28,240
like airplanes

713
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,039
yeah but even even we had that leap

714
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:33,120
didn't we like over the course of what

715
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:42,230
yeah well i think it was actually a

716
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,799
uh like an uh nazi or something that we

717
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,080
recruited

718
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,559
uh after world war two to come here and

719
00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:50,640
work on rockets and stuff

720
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:52,880
and whatever you designed wound up being

721
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:54,960
still like the basis for jets and all

722
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:55,840
that kind of stuff yeah

723
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,600
you had them i believe if it's a space

724
00:24:02,549 --> 00:23:59,840
or something yeah verna von braun

725
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,559
it was operation paper clip yes yeah

726
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,080
brought over the nazi scientists

727
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:07,360
from the uh nazi germany to the us and

728
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,720
and what not so actually you bring over

729
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:12,159
the you bring over the best minds and

730
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:13,360
stuff and

731
00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:16,880
uh yeah i'm sure they have some

732
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:17,550
interesting

733
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:26,640
[Laughter]

734
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:30,159
um what was like your what was one of

735
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:31,039
your episodes

736
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:34,240
where you know

737
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:36,880
have you ever had one i guess where

738
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,640
loads of synchronicity hit

739
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:40,080
and it was just one of those moments

740
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:46,630
like what was the most impactful one for

741
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:48,559
you

742
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:50,640
i mean and packed full stuff was like

743
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:52,400
getting lu on when i hadn't even been

744
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:55,039
doing the podcast a year like that was

745
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:57,039
like in the space of this year january

746
00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:59,039
february march april i had

747
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,840
avila blue elizondo george knapp and and

748
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:03,039
brandon fugo

749
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,720
which was like for me but that's i

750
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:08,080
suppose more of a personal thing but

751
00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:09,760
people get to hear that conversation and

752
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:10,320
i just

753
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:12,240
i like to think i can ask some things in

754
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:13,200
a way that may or may not have been

755
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:14,400
asked before and get a little bit more

756
00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:15,440
out of them which is

757
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:17,039
i think what any good interviewer tries

758
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,120
to do um yeah

759
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:21,600
and it's not for me to hear it's for the

760
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,400
people but

761
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:24,720
honestly i think the the first episode

762
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:26,240
with gary voorhees

763
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:28,640
um i still remember i've got the notepad

764
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:29,840
as well maybe one day

765
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,520
that'll be worth you know a million

766
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:33,360
dollars or whatever my notepad with my

767
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,640
initial notes and

768
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:36,080
i remember like reaching out to a few

769
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:37,520
people and gary was really kind to say

770
00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:38,640
he would come on when i didn't

771
00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:40,000
have a name for the podcast when i got

772
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,840
in touch with gary uh i just said to him

773
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:43,279
look i've got a microphone

774
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:46,000
um i didn't actually know how i would

775
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:47,440
record it either

776
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:49,440
i i didn't know about you know could i

777
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:50,640
use skype can i use

778
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:52,640
zoom or anything like that right did any

779
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:54,320
special software for it what it would

780
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:55,600
sound like i had

781
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:58,159
no idea i literally had a microphone and

782
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:59,279
i was like um

783
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,960
gary i've got an idea for a podcast

784
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:02,559
gonna talk about ufos and stuff

785
00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:04,720
uh obviously you were on the the nimitz

786
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:06,159
in the princeton incident

787
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:09,120
and i'd saw him on unidentified and one

788
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:10,559
other podcast that i checked out on

789
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:11,279
youtube

790
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:13,120
and he was really kind they came on and

791
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:14,960
i had a page of bullet points because i

792
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:16,480
don't want to make loads of notes and

793
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:17,200
read stuff

794
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:19,919
because and i know some people do that

795
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:21,600
right especially these days

796
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,440
where they will literally you can see

797
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:24,960
them reading off the screen or it's like

798
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:25,840
a killer prompt

799
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:28,159
and it's like that's fine and you can

800
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:30,159
ask some really good questions okay but

801
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:31,760
it's the following up on the question

802
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:34,080
for me that's important i i mean i've

803
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:36,080
sat with any number of interviewers and

804
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:37,200
well that's a really good question

805
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,640
that's a great question but the best

806
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,080
questions from the interview

807
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:42,880
have been coming up with something on

808
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:44,480
the spot in response to what they have

809
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:45,200
said

810
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:46,720
and it's just digging into that little

811
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:47,840
nugget and that's where i started the

812
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,279
podcast in the first place because i was

813
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:51,200
listening to podcasts where

814
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:52,880
i was listening like good interviews and

815
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,400
i was going oh ask about that

816
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,640
and they just move on oh ask about that

817
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,559
that should and they just move on

818
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,640
um but gary voorhees i think during that

819
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:02,240
like i say i thought this might go

820
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:04,080
i said to him at the start of i'm sure

821
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:05,760
if it goes 20 minutes half an hour that

822
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,559
would be great

823
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:07,919
i mean we're still talking after two

824
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:09,919
hours um

825
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:13,120
and i think i realized like i'm i know

826
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:15,120
what i'm talking about to some extent

827
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:17,760
um i'm by no means perfect at this i

828
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:19,360
don't have a background in

829
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,880
journalism and media and all that kind

830
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,480
of stuff for a short time

831
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,480
i've done it at college but i don't have

832
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:26,159
professional qualifications or stuff in

833
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:26,399
it

834
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:28,799
so as just and i appreciate what you

835
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:30,080
said at the start it comes across as

836
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:31,679
natural but this is just what i would

837
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:32,320
ask

838
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:34,000
if i'm listening to any podcast and i

839
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:35,440
hear any one of these people

840
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:38,159
on another podcast i'm thinking oh i

841
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,600
would ask about this or actually you

842
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:41,279
know what i would ask about that

843
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:43,360
and i've got no qualms like i did with

844
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:44,640
again i'll go back to the biggest one

845
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:46,240
i've done was louis lozondo

846
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:48,159
i've got no qualms in starting a podcast

847
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,760
and saying i've just heard johnny walt

848
00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:51,120
and ryan sprigg

849
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,360
both interview lou go back and listen to

850
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:55,039
theirs once you've listened to this

851
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:56,320
because i am not going to talk about the

852
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:57,279
same stuff

853
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:58,640
because you've heard that already asked

854
00:28:01,669 --> 00:28:00,480
there's no point i am going to ask about

855
00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:01,679
some other things and that's that's

856
00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:03,279
great because they've done their thing

857
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:03,919
so

858
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:05,520
no point in me asking the same stuff if

859
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,799
you want to hear that you'll hear it

860
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,000
elsewhere anyway

861
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:11,039
um i like you thanks yeah so but yeah

862
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:12,399
but with gary verrice

863
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:13,520
that was the one where i was like you

864
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:15,200
know what this was a lot of fun i

865
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:17,039
enjoyed it and i felt i could follow up

866
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,000
on things and

867
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:20,159
just kind of kept it going from there so

868
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:21,760
that was a big one for us

869
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:28,389
what what do you see coming up in the

870
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:30,080
future are you

871
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,760
still actively working with the

872
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:33,520
government there trying to get some

873
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:35,120
disclosure i know you had a petition

874
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:36,960
going at some point

875
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:39,840
yeah we actually we try to start and

876
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:41,919
through uap media uk if people want to

877
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:43,679
follow on twitter and stuff as well and

878
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:44,000
you've got

879
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:47,120
uap media dot uk's the website um

880
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,880
we tried to start a petition well some

881
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:50,159
of the guys in the group did and the

882
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,760
government kept knocking it back

883
00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:53,440
because of the wording and it can

884
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:55,200
literally be the plural of something

885
00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:56,799
isn't what they want or

886
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:58,480
actually because you've put this word

887
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,480
here it changes the context of the

888
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:02,480
petition so they can't accept it

889
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,760
so it's really hard just to get a

890
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:05,600
petition started so i think it was anna

891
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:06,240
witty

892
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:08,240
had created one where the wording was

893
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,279
was perfect

894
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,120
and we we went on the back of that to

895
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,440
promote that petition just because again

896
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:15,120
we're not at it for fame our celebrity

897
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:17,039
or oh it's our profession it's like

898
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:18,640
here's someone who has got that yeah

899
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:19,760
here's but here's someone who's done

900
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:20,799
this and they've done it well

901
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:24,000
let's get behind it um and

902
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:27,600
what uap media has become um it's been

903
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:30,799
really a lot of us a soft launch because

904
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:32,159
we kind of just done it quietly but

905
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,360
there was no big hoo-ha

906
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:35,039
even on my podcast we have not done a

907
00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:37,039
uap media roundtable

908
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,799
launch special or anything like that and

909
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:40,559
it's my group with the guys

910
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:42,159
um it's just we've started in the

911
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:43,840
background we've got databases of

912
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,120
journalists

913
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:47,360
who um we think may or may not be

914
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:48,720
interested in the subject that we can

915
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:49,760
get in touch with

916
00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:52,640
we've got local politicians that we here

917
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:54,159
are potentially interested

918
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:55,600
and we're trying to start it from a

919
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,520
grassroots point of view

920
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:59,520
uh for example something like the big

921
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,679
phone home in the uk

922
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:03,600
i i don't see that having legs anywhere

923
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:04,799
near at the moment it's just not the

924
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:05,919
right time for it

925
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,320
we need that too soon yeah we need that

926
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:10,399
kind of ground swell from the start that

927
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:12,320
journalists will start talking about it

928
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:14,080
it's only now starting to get a little

929
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:14,880
traction

930
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:16,720
in our mainstream press because of

931
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:18,799
what's going on in the u.s like you said

932
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:22,080
guys like sean chris melon loyola zondo

933
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:24,240
and the like sitting on cnn fox good

934
00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:25,440
morning america

935
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:28,159
washington post today do you think it's

936
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,799
being

937
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:30,559
do you think this stuff is effective

938
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:33,360
like when these guys are on the

939
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:35,919
major news networks or washington post

940
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:37,279
do you think people are really taking

941
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:37,840
that in

942
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:40,399
or just kind of blowing by it yeah i

943
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:41,520
think people are taking it in

944
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:44,320
and i would just use my own and i would

945
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:46,159
love other podcasters or youtubers and

946
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:47,360
stuff to come out and say

947
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:50,399
you look at when lou goes on fox

948
00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:53,440
or cnn and you look at your show numbers

949
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:54,559
for that episode

950
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:57,120
i see an increase in and people going

951
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:58,480
back and finding because people look and

952
00:31:02,710 --> 00:30:58,880
go

953
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:02,720
okay here's a podcast here's a youtube

954
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,039
channel he was on sean cahill

955
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:07,360
uh is on cnn or fox the people start

956
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:09,039
googling sean cahill

957
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,440
just the one percent 99 still we'll just

958
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:13,039
watch and go okay that was interesting

959
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:14,240
one of our aliens

960
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:16,640
but you get that new one percent that go

961
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:18,640
ah sean cahill okay he was on citizen

962
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:20,720
witness what's that ufo youtube channel

963
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,640
all right okay subscribe and you just

964
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:24,559
start to see that little trickle yeah

965
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:26,799
you see the you see the follows and then

966
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:28,240
you'll see people getting in touch with

967
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:28,960
you saying

968
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,440
i've just got into this subject like

969
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:33,519
i've just found this sort of just found

970
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,640
your podcast

971
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,640
and i love that and that's where i think

972
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:38,080
you're starting to see

973
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,760
the uptake and i think everyone will be

974
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:41,360
getting that which is which is great and

975
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:41,760
why

976
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:44,240
anyone who's on social media try and

977
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:45,600
engage in a conversation with these

978
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:47,840
people in a positive way as best you can

979
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,840
i'm scottish and i'd love to argue

980
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:52,000
i have to pull myself back some time

981
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:53,919
from hitting the send button on some

982
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,760
some stuff right but sure right it's

983
00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:57,600
just these people are noted us and sean

984
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:58,960
you said it yourself it's a scary

985
00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:00,880
conversation for some people to have

986
00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:02,399
and to come into and go you know what

987
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:03,919
i've ridiculed this for years

988
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:05,679
yeah and now i'm actually having the

989
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:07,679
conversation of wait a minute is there

990
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:09,039
something to this

991
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:11,039
yeah and then everyone's gonna have to

992
00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:12,240
play yeah

993
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,919
or then they come into ufo twitter and

994
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:15,679
people start barfing all over the place

995
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:16,559
it's like whoa

996
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:18,960
okay i don't want any part of this now

997
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:19,600
yeah

998
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:25,110
it's like the hardest part for me is

999
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:26,640
thinking about well it's not

1000
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,960
hard i guess but it's just like what is

1001
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:30,559
the world gonna look like

1002
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:33,679
and you know if we get some sort of

1003
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:36,000
confirmation of another intelligent life

1004
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,480
and the reason that i think about it so

1005
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,159
much is because i think

1006
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:43,200
other people that envision so many

1007
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:43,760
different

1008
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:48,320
things you know because nobody knows

1009
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:52,080
so what do you think

1010
00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:55,360
it's going to look like you know what if

1011
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:57,679
you had asked me this

1012
00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:59,919
before march of last year and it's not

1013
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:01,519
because of the podcast but

1014
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:04,000
for because i covered i would have said

1015
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:04,880
you know they'll be

1016
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,240
this that and the next thing will happen

1017
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:08,640
okay but we're living through and we

1018
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:10,799
have had a global pandemic

1019
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:13,279
and the world's just for most all

1020
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,960
intents and purposes going on you still

1021
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:16,159
go to the shop

1022
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,720
in a global pandemic you still have been

1023
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:20,640
able to go to your local daily or

1024
00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:23,519
restaurant at times cinemas are back

1025
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,240
open

1026
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,159
the world carries on in its own way and

1027
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,320
i think it probably shows

1028
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:30,080
and i i used to find it funnier last

1029
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:31,679
year and this year we have the memes of

1030
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,600
next up it's the aliens

1031
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:35,279
and that's probably a little bit truer

1032
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:37,679
than we probably realized that

1033
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:40,799
i think people are just accustomed now

1034
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:42,080
to

1035
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:45,760
stuff happens and it'll just be

1036
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:46,640
something we

1037
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:49,279
we go on with and acclimatize to and and

1038
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,640
i think the covert stuff for me has

1039
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:52,960
shown that the world will just carry on

1040
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:55,120
and continue yeah and this will just be

1041
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:56,399
a part of it

1042
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,720
how long that happens or how it happens

1043
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:00,320
depends on the way it's kind of

1044
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:03,679
brought out yeah so

1045
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:09,990
do you think that ever happened on earth

1046
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,159
um

1047
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:14,800
you know i that's happened but i know

1048
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:15,919
what you mean

1049
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,839
um that people just carry on through all

1050
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:19,679
this everything that happens

1051
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,919
especially now it like i think

1052
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:23,280
everything is crescendoing

1053
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:25,839
all at once it almost seems like you

1054
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:26,320
know

1055
00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:29,359
um israel and palestine

1056
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:30,639
one of the biggest wars that they've

1057
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:33,119
been in for a very long time

1058
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:36,399
um china russia in the hacking and how

1059
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:37,440
intense that's getting

1060
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:39,679
our energy grid gas all that kind of

1061
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:41,839
stuff food

1062
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,599
ufos are coming is it just me or do you

1063
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,960
feel like everything's coming to a

1064
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:49,200
tipping point

1065
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:52,320
or is that like a imagination thing no i

1066
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,040
just think it's

1067
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:54,960
it's a cycle i think if you look back

1068
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,800
like i remember

1069
00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:58,800
10 years ago not even 10 years ago eight

1070
00:35:01,750 --> 00:35:00,000
years ago roughly

1071
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,760
north korea was on the brink of kicking

1072
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:03,359
off again and there was rockets about to

1073
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:04,880
be fired and all that kind of stuff and

1074
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,160
it quietens down

1075
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:08,079
there's just always something that that

1076
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:09,760
comes up and flares up and then it goes

1077
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:10,800
away again

1078
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:13,920
um i remember yeah

1079
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:16,960
in school reading the book 1984 which

1080
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:18,400
the george orwell book right and if

1081
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:19,520
you've not read the book you've probably

1082
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:20,800
seen the movie and if you've not you've

1083
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,160
heard about big brother and things like

1084
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:24,240
that which came from 1984 and

1085
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:25,520
quoting a book here i'll make myself

1086
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:27,280
more intelligent than i am

1087
00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:29,280
but in the book there's three super

1088
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,839
powers and the three superpowers two of

1089
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:34,079
them are always at war with the other

1090
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:37,119
so you have you have a and b are our

1091
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:38,079
friends and again

1092
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:41,760
c but then down the line a and c become

1093
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,680
friends and they're now against b

1094
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,599
and they change the propaganda no no

1095
00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:46,880
we've always been friends with these and

1096
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:48,400
this is one that we don't like

1097
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:50,000
and that that's just all that happens as

1098
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:51,359
these things like russia and china are

1099
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:52,400
now friends and

1100
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:54,880
yeah and everything else and that's the

1101
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:56,560
way i kind of look at it and as you look

1102
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:58,079
as you look through history these things

1103
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:01,280
always kind of happen um yeah i can see

1104
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,760
see someone mentioning the alien girl hi

1105
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:05,520
about the the new world order and stuff

1106
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,160
like

1107
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:08,640
i i don't see that i think i think

1108
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,839
people are too offered with things now

1109
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,440
and social media is about and there's no

1110
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:14,800
doubt a lot of control goes on in the

1111
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:15,680
background but

1112
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:19,359
i i really do think when you hear about

1113
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:20,960
again people at louis zondo talking

1114
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:23,680
about how dysfunctional the us

1115
00:36:26,190 --> 00:36:24,560
government is

1116
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:26,200
that it's not the government and how

1117
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:27,920
compartmentalized it is and

1118
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,599
it's probably scarier to think how much

1119
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:31,200
they don't have control of and that goes

1120
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,720
for all the countries like that

1121
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,720
yeah how much infighting must go on and

1122
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:36,720
a lot of it is a front of how in control

1123
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:37,680
they are

1124
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:40,480
so completely and then you try to think

1125
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:42,079
how are they how can they handle even a

1126
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:43,280
topic like this

1127
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:46,079
when where it just takes one bad seed

1128
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:47,280
and you could potentially

1129
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,839
obliterate the entire world with this

1130
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,200
technology

1131
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:53,200
so i mean on the one hand too that kind

1132
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:54,720
of brings up a good point i kind of i

1133
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,839
understand why

1134
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:57,599
maybe they try to keep it secret if they

1135
00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,200
have it because

1136
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:02,400
you know it could be pretty it could

1137
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:05,839
the worst case scenario is pretty bad

1138
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:08,480
so it's almost like if you even if you

1139
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:09,839
want to disclose

1140
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,240
you got to make sure that you have some

1141
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:14,079
sort of

1142
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,280
plan right so that

1143
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:19,520
that doesn't happen and people don't you

1144
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:21,119
know but then that kind of goes back to

1145
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,640
i think there's all sorts of stuff going

1146
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:24,160
on so how do you even plan for something

1147
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:25,520
like that it's

1148
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:29,280
that's not easy but i think it

1149
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,640
you know now that i'm talking through

1150
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:32,640
this it might be easiest to just

1151
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:34,160
throw the information out there and say

1152
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:37,680
hey we're done with it let's do it

1153
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:39,200
i think this is like there's a few

1154
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:40,480
conversations there obviously it's a

1155
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:41,599
good point and it's

1156
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:44,240
how how this is definitely not russian

1157
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:45,680
and we always talk about russia china

1158
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:47,040
and the us because they are the

1159
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,400
superpowers okay

1160
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:51,119
like like scotland's not invading anyone

1161
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:51,680
you know

1162
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:54,560
um but it's if you are china and you

1163
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:55,680
have this technology

1164
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:57,119
like has been said on the mainstream

1165
00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:59,520
news recently then you just fly all the

1166
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:01,599
tic tacs over major cities of the us and

1167
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:02,400
russia with

1168
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:03,839
nuclear bombs on them or whatever

1169
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,760
weapons and threaten and say look we

1170
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,640
have this

1171
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:08,160
you can't touch us you can't defend

1172
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:10,880
against it we are now the superpower

1173
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,480
and that's it it's game over because

1174
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:14,079
they are now in charge

1175
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:15,680
and that's not happened so that's why

1176
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:18,320
this isn't russian chinese or u.s tech

1177
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:22,240
yeah in general was just unfolding

1178
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:25,839
pretty much saying that um he was he was

1179
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,880
saying uh

1180
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:28,880
listen there's a lot of talk about this

1181
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:31,839
being possibly russian or chinese

1182
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:34,480
they have not had this technology in

1183
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:36,480
2004

1184
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:38,880
you know so it's it's pretty interesting

1185
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:40,079
that there's so

1186
00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:43,520
many characters in

1187
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:46,240
lead characters coming out and saying

1188
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:47,680
things like brennan clapper

1189
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,240
everybody but you know there's still

1190
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:52,480
this line that they keep stopping at

1191
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:54,160
you know why you're gonna watch the

1192
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:57,920
fours i can't just [\h__\h] say it

1193
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:59,200
i would like i would like to hear your

1194
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:00,400
opinion because this is the first time

1195
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:01,920
afk and i thought that's okay and people

1196
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,240
might

1197
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:04,240
go water doesn't make sense but

1198
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:05,920
everyone's talking about how it's not us

1199
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,520
not russian not china because if they

1200
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:09,040
had the technology they would have used

1201
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:09,680
it

1202
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:11,200
what if all three of them have some of

1203
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:12,720
this technology and that's why they

1204
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:13,680
still don't use it

1205
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:17,119
sure like nuclear bombs yeah

1206
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:19,040
it's like if you've all got this amazing

1207
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:20,640
technology and these craft that can do x

1208
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:21,200
y and z

1209
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:23,440
then what do you do because you're all

1210
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,880
just canceling each other out again or

1211
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:25,920
maybe they don't know

1212
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:27,520
how much the other one's got and it's

1213
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:28,960
like uh yeah we're not going to bring

1214
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,680
out our

1215
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:31,599
tic tacs because theirs might be better

1216
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:33,440
that gets me to like my first

1217
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,400
theory i've ever had on ttsa when i

1218
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:38,079
first started getting into this stuff

1219
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:40,480
you know because i'm very uh i got to

1220
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,240
figure this out for myself i know people

1221
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:44,320
have opinions but i'm digging

1222
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:48,320
um and you know i didn't really

1223
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:50,000
you know you find stuff that you can

1224
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:51,599
kind of take in any direction

1225
00:39:55,589 --> 00:39:54,000
like depending on your perspective but

1226
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:55,599
basically the thing i thought of that

1227
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:56,640
made the most sense

1228
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:00,079
was uh these are ours

1229
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,119
right and they're putting it on tv

1230
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:05,760
while they like wiretap china and russia

1231
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:07,040
and see what they have to say about

1232
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:08,720
these things

1233
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:12,160
you know are they going to say um

1234
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,119
wow those are ufos or oh that's the

1235
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:17,040
american drone that we saw over here

1236
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:20,160
last month you know whatever and wired

1237
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:20,800
to have them

1238
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:23,599
you know that's a fair theory i've

1239
00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:24,960
thought about that as well and i don't

1240
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:26,319
just because they come out and say this

1241
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:27,599
isn't us tech

1242
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:29,920
we can't 100 percent discount that

1243
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:31,359
because that's

1244
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:33,040
well they've said it so that's true

1245
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:34,880
because you know people lie

1246
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:36,400
okay but i'm not saying this is the case

1247
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:38,000
but you have to at least consider it

1248
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:39,680
and like you're saying what what if it's

1249
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:41,440
a show of oh look at some of the stuff

1250
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:42,240
we've got

1251
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,520
space and

1252
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:49,359
you know it's so hard to track on radar

1253
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,560
and it's almost like a

1254
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:52,640
like a bit of a threat isn't it that ah

1255
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:54,160
look how good this stuff is and we just

1256
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,520
don't know where it comes from

1257
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,880
and at least it gets the russians and

1258
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:59,119
the chinese going ah

1259
00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:00,960
i mean it's not ours and it's not yours

1260
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,200
no so what if it is theirs

1261
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:05,119
and it just leaves that seeded doubt

1262
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,560
doesn't it but

1263
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,720
it's you do i would love to hear some of

1264
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:10,079
those conversations that must go on in

1265
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:11,040
the background

1266
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:12,640
like america hears them say that they're

1267
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:15,110
like [\h__\h] it's not theirs

1268
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:29,030
wow yeah that's that stuff is um

1269
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:30,720
pretty crazy to think about i always

1270
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:32,640
want to be the fly on the wall that's

1271
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:33,359
for sure

1272
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:36,400
because you know especially

1273
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,319
whatever they're telling you there's so

1274
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:39,760
much more going on

1275
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,880
in the background you know probably some

1276
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,560
good stuff probably some bad stuff

1277
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:47,119
probably some sneaky stuff probably some

1278
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:48,720
affairs and cussing and

1279
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,910
selling them meta materials who knows

1280
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:55,440
but i mean at the end of the day

1281
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:56,880
it's still human beings in charge of

1282
00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:58,800
this stuff as far as we know you know

1283
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:01,760
um and that's where human error comes

1284
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:02,160
into

1285
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:05,839
in human nature yeah

1286
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:08,079
yeah completely and then how do you deal

1287
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:11,040
with something that you can't even learn

1288
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:12,720
that's what i like that's kind of what

1289
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:14,560
drives me crazy too

1290
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:17,440
yeah it's you know because i think it's

1291
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:18,960
human nature to want to have some sort

1292
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,000
of sense of control

1293
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:22,319
right and this is definitely something

1294
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,560
that strips it away from everyone

1295
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:26,319
and if you're not just like you say

1296
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:28,240
human nature absolutely i'm a control

1297
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:29,119
freak with stuff like

1298
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,720
like you know the podcast and little

1299
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,640
bits of detail and things like that but

1300
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:34,800
if your job is at the top level of the

1301
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:35,680
military

1302
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,839
where literally control and power you

1303
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:39,599
you know you've got your finger on like

1304
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:41,680
nuclear suitcases nuclear footballs as

1305
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:42,720
they call them and

1306
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,720
and you have this other thing that you

1307
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:46,560
know what what is this

1308
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:48,560
and you know you you'd be really proud

1309
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,920
you see people like luella's on doing

1310
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:51,760
how proud are his patriots and americans

1311
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,720
are generally

1312
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,319
super patriotic and proud of their

1313
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:56,000
military and thank you for your service

1314
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:58,560
all that kind of stuff and and and these

1315
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,440
guys

1316
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,280
must be like they see the latest fighter

1317
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,520
jets it's not like wow here's a 150

1318
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,960
million dollar machine

1319
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,720
that can perform this and do this and

1320
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:08,319
look at the machinery it's got in the

1321
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:09,280
sensors

1322
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:12,240
and then this this little tic tac comes

1323
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:13,200
along

1324
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:15,040
that just blows out the water and all of

1325
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:16,720
a sudden that thing you've got might as

1326
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:18,560
well be a super nintendo flying about

1327
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:19,200
you know

1328
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,040
it's not really i agree it's not

1329
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:22,800
comparable or comparable and

1330
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,920
and that's where you've got guys like

1331
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,520
fravor and alex dietrich and whatnot

1332
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:27,119
going ryan graves

1333
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,359
that they they know what they saw and it

1334
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:31,359
seems like you can do it at once

1335
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:34,480
literally like there's no you know we we

1336
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,880
gotta think to move our arm before we

1337
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,480
you know they're just doing it right

1338
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:40,000
away you know it's pretty

1339
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,599
and yeah um i don't think fraver really

1340
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,079
wants to fly in one of those

1341
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,240
detectives yeah that's what he said i

1342
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:49,599
think he's like oh i wanna

1343
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:52,400
i'm gonna fly that thing it's like i

1344
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:55,119
don't know if you could handle it but um

1345
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:58,880
you know it yeah it's hard to keep

1346
00:44:00,950 --> 00:44:00,319
control especially when that's your

1347
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:00,960
number one

1348
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:05,680
job and then to you know admit that

1349
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:08,000
it's got to be difficult it's like you

1350
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:09,359
know if you are at

1351
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:12,240
any other job and you know your boss

1352
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:13,520
comes into your office you pretend

1353
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:14,319
you're busy

1354
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:17,440
you know and frustrated he leaves but

1355
00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:19,760
you really didn't do anything

1356
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:21,920
you know you're just putting up the the

1357
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:23,839
persona of working hard at it

1358
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,480
or whatever that's that's probably an

1359
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,240
argument for the cover-up and that this

1360
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:30,160
isn't for the one percent like us who

1361
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,560
are

1362
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,800
into the subject and want disclosure

1363
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:34,720
with a capital d all that kind of stuff

1364
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:37,040
but the general population expect the

1365
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:38,800
government and the military to protect

1366
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:39,520
its people

1367
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:41,040
i know we've had a bit like crazy 18

1368
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:42,319
months with all that kind of stuff right

1369
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,359
a lot has gone on

1370
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:45,119
but generally that's what's expected

1371
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:46,960
throughout the world and

1372
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:49,359
if they come out and say yep okay

1373
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,480
there's these things there's these

1374
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:52,079
aliens and we don't know what

1375
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:55,200
this stuff is that that causes panic

1376
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:57,040
among a lot of people yeah

1377
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,960
because okay but what what if they do

1378
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:00,800
this and what they do there's disclosure

1379
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,839
does that mean they know what it is

1380
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:05,440
for me it's that whole argument of

1381
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,599
disclosure as they know what it is

1382
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,319
and they have been hiding x y and z yeah

1383
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:12,560
confirmation

1384
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,920
i think mitigates or gets rid of that on

1385
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:17,040
the gates sorry

1386
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,079
the culpability for the past

1387
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:22,319
because confirmation lets you say okay

1388
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:23,760
i'm just for example

1389
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,599
if i've just got a job at nasa one month

1390
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:27,040
ago okay

1391
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:29,119
like bill nelson has and i sit down in

1392
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:31,119
an interview and tell you that i've

1393
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:33,680
instigated an investigation in the ufos

1394
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:35,359
i've told the scientists to do it

1395
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,720
people are going oh well why have nasa

1396
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,800
never been interested before bill nelson

1397
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:40,400
doesn't care he wasn't there before bill

1398
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:41,760
nelson's there now

1399
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:43,599
same with people involved in the uap

1400
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:45,599
task force and the task force report

1401
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:47,760
guys at loyola zondo chris melon who

1402
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:49,520
have been actively lobbying for this for

1403
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,640
a long time

1404
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:52,720
they've got no culpability going back 70

1405
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:54,079
years they weren't involved in

1406
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:55,680
roswell on the cover-up the betty and

1407
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:58,000
barney hill the phoenix lights incidents

1408
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:59,680
they weren't involved in that so

1409
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:01,040
confirmation

1410
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,640
i think is going forward that'll be

1411
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:04,000
important to everyone else i think

1412
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:05,280
you'll have a small section

1413
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:06,800
and this goes back to what i said about

1414
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,720
people who really want to cling on to

1415
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:10,480
what happened in the past and those old

1416
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:11,359
cases

1417
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:13,280
well what about roswell yeah but you

1418
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:14,640
know what we're more interested

1419
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,160
the mainstream the general public are

1420
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:18,000
now more interested and

1421
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:19,280
what are these things where are they

1422
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:20,800
from are they from a different planet

1423
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:21,680
what do you mean there's different

1424
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:22,640
realities

1425
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:24,160
what's this new technology going to do

1426
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,079
for us as opposed to

1427
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:29,280
do does ufo twitter or social media

1428
00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:31,520
for ufos now become the thing of yeah

1429
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:32,319
but we want

1430
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,079
you know we want people to get arrested

1431
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:35,920
for what happened at roswell and we want

1432
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:36,720
people to

1433
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:38,240
to come out and apologize for what

1434
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,200
happened in phoenix in 1990s

1435
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:43,440
and it's like well no because it's just

1436
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:45,280
time to move on past that that stuff

1437
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:47,599
shouldn't or will come out anyway but

1438
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,720
you can't assume it's an

1439
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,720
easy decision for the government either

1440
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,160
you know coming out and asking for

1441
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:54,079
apologies and explanations and all that

1442
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:54,560
is

1443
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:58,400
better in that moment

1444
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:00,800
which is such a you know unreasonable

1445
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:02,560
thing to think because it's

1446
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,800
aliens a spaceship and nobody knows what

1447
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:06,160
it is you know

1448
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,800
so i i think just to a certain extent

1449
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:10,400
you got to show some compassion as we're

1450
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:12,079
all just human beings doing the best we

1451
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,480
can

1452
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:14,319
and the government there's so many of

1453
00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:15,760
them in there

1454
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,359
um it's you know you can't

1455
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:21,280
i always say this you can't blame and

1456
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:23,359
stereotype everything as a whole

1457
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:26,240
you know um there's good people in the

1458
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:26,960
government

1459
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:30,240
and we're hoping that those are the ones

1460
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,520
that work for this stuff and i think

1461
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:33,760
bill nelson is a good example

1462
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:36,720
i think uh yeah your uap task force is a

1463
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:37,599
good example

1464
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:41,440
to the past

1465
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:44,160
is too heavy it's too big of a burden

1466
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:45,839
you have to release it

1467
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,720
if you want to have the energy and the

1468
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,920
go-getter attitude

1469
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:51,680
to get this across the finish line right

1470
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:53,680
now you know

1471
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:56,319
um and i'm looking forward to that

1472
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,760
happening but i think

1473
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:59,440
you know as new faces come in and new

1474
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,359
politicians and the government goes

1475
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,760
through transitions

1476
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:05,599
i think that's where the opportunity

1477
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:07,520
comes from you know the old guard is

1478
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:08,240
gone

1479
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:11,760
there's new people that are excited

1480
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:14,240
about new technologies and new things in

1481
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,599
the galaxy

1482
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:18,079
and are motivated and aren't weighed

1483
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:19,200
down

1484
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,240
by the past or jaded

1485
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:23,760
you know to where they've pretty much

1486
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:25,920
already given up people that have now

1487
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:26,400
had

1488
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:28,960
30 40 years of star wars star trek the

1489
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,079
marvel movies

1490
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:32,640
conditioning them to other people other

1491
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:34,000
species other races

1492
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:35,839
other planets other technologies other

1493
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:38,160
worlds so

1494
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:39,680
and that that goes back to the does

1495
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,599
hollywood have a say in it and

1496
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:43,680
even the the most recent trailer for the

1497
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,040
eternals

1498
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:47,200
if you saw that had that huge triangular

1499
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:48,880
wedge coming up onto the screen that

1500
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:49,680
it's like

1501
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:51,200
it may or may not be i'm just throwing

1502
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,880
this out there but is that a way of

1503
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:54,960
getting masses ready for oh look at this

1504
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:57,520
big black triangle

1505
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:00,720
yeah maybe in video games too i mean

1506
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:04,240
like it was crazy how video games turned

1507
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:04,960
into

1508
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:07,359
uh make your life what you want it to be

1509
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:08,240
type of thing

1510
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:11,200
yeah versus just like a pong or tecmo

1511
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:11,920
super bowl

1512
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,000
in other words like you can't possibly

1513
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:16,640
like this more than real life but but

1514
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:20,079
now and you can do anything you can be

1515
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:21,359
as evil as you want

1516
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:23,839
you know or as good as you want and

1517
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:25,359
there's some crazy [\h__\h] in there too in

1518
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:27,599
those video games so

1519
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:29,359
with everybody staring at screens and

1520
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:31,200
everything and adapted to

1521
00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:34,640
like living through those if something

1522
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:36,640
comes in in real life that's weird

1523
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,800
maybe yeah maybe it won't be such a big

1524
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:40,079
deal then

1525
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:41,599
it's like if you remember the film

1526
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,359
wall-e like

1527
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:45,359
that's uh there's anyone with a little

1528
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:47,440
robot who's cleaning oh yeah yeah yeah

1529
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,680
and that's all in that big spaceship and

1530
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,720
they're all sitting in their chairs

1531
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:52,079
they're all really big and fat now

1532
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:52,800
because

1533
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:54,400
they don't have to move they're flying

1534
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:56,000
to this new planet which they're never

1535
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:57,280
actually going to get to

1536
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,960
but they're literally sitting in a chair

1537
00:50:01,990 --> 00:50:00,319
looking at a screen all day

1538
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:02,000
and their life is just there and then

1539
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:03,520
one day the screen moves and

1540
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:05,119
two people bump into each other and like

1541
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:06,559
you say life kind of hits them that oh

1542
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,359
wait a minute

1543
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:09,280
you're there and i'm here and we could

1544
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:10,720
just talk couldn't we

1545
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:13,040
and that's like you say that's it's not

1546
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:14,240
too far off i don't think

1547
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:15,920
as we talk to each other from across the

1548
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:17,359
pond

1549
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:18,880
in front of a screen you know right

1550
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:20,960
where it'll be a hologram or whatever

1551
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:24,079
or um yeah vr is

1552
00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:27,119
uh getting pretty good too these days

1553
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:33,670
it's just like all this technology is

1554
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:35,040
getting so great

1555
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:38,079
as this uav thing comes

1556
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:41,040
it's just such a coincidence almost

1557
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:43,839
because technology can only go so far

1558
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,280
until it's something like uap technology

1559
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:49,359
where you can kind of do whatever you

1560
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:51,040
want basically

1561
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:52,720
you know you can go anywhere you can

1562
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,880
think anything you can

1563
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,400
send thoughts in other people's brains

1564
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:58,720
you can receive their you know whatever

1565
00:51:01,430 --> 00:51:00,240
and that's what we're kind of working

1566
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:01,440
towards aren't we with all this

1567
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:02,559
technology

1568
00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:04,720
i mean making things faster and faster

1569
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,559
before all of a sudden you don't need

1570
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:08,160
the tool anymore

1571
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:09,599
yeah you don't need to screen in front

1572
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:11,119
of you and it gets like minority report

1573
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:12,079
but it's just the

1574
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:13,760
you know the lights and the stuff and

1575
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,960
and then it just yep and stuff just

1576
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:16,640
going at your head and computer chips

1577
00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:17,280
and

1578
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,599
families yeah well you know you know dad

1579
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,440
like the signal who's my regular co-host

1580
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:23,040
like he sent me the video last night and

1581
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,400
he was blown away from

1582
00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:26,640
apple's presentation they done yesterday

1583
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:28,000
and it shows you how you can now have

1584
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:28,559
like a

1585
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:31,440
a mac an ipad and an air mac all next to

1586
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:32,160
each other

1587
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:34,240
and wirelessly you can use all three as

1588
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:35,520
if they're one system

1589
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:37,200
where you can use the track pad on one

1590
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:39,839
to drag and drop things from each screen

1591
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:41,359
and it's just like he's like that's

1592
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,640
mind-blowing because you're literally

1593
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:44,319
just moving stuff in thin air

1594
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:46,480
there's nothing connecting those and

1595
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:48,079
you're still using it as if it's one

1596
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:49,440
system you're like

1597
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:52,160
routing cables that don't exist yeah and

1598
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:52,800
you go back

1599
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:55,119
20 30 years and that would just be like

1600
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:56,240
magic

1601
00:51:59,829 --> 00:51:58,640
yeah well like a remote control was

1602
00:52:03,190 --> 00:51:59,839
magic when it was

1603
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,200
yeah absolutely yeah what yep

1604
00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:06,160
yeah and yeah i wonder if there's any

1605
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:07,359
harm to all that stuff

1606
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,760
i know that's kind of you know uh

1607
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:10,800
conspiracy

1608
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:12,480
type stuff but there's so much stuff

1609
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,839
going around in our atmosphere that we

1610
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:15,200
can't even see

1611
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:18,240
it's just it it's bizarre um

1612
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:20,720
what do you think of lu elizondo when he

1613
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:22,400
kind of talked about like you can only

1614
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:27,990
like 10 of basically what's there like

1615
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,280
your visual

1616
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:35,040
yeah the visual light spectrum and you

1617
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:36,720
can't basically make sense of most of

1618
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:37,520
the stuff

1619
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:40,240
that's right in front of our face i mean

1620
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,800
like i'm

1621
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:42,480
i joked before on twitter but i'm

1622
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:44,079
colorblind so you know even the stuff

1623
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,440
that is there like after i got to see

1624
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:47,599
some of the colors so

1625
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:49,599
no no no listen it's not a disability

1626
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:50,800
don't worry i i

1627
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:53,760
like so i can understand how you know i

1628
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:54,240
i see

1629
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:56,319
i can literally look at the same like

1630
00:52:59,829 --> 00:52:57,680
note post-it note as you

1631
00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:59,839
and you'll see the true color of it and

1632
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:01,520
i'll see it slightly differently

1633
00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:04,319
yeah like so i can get how that's just

1634
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,280
one thing and people

1635
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:07,119
people struggle to understand how can

1636
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:08,160
you look at that and see a different

1637
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,720
color

1638
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:10,640
it's just the way my brain works and

1639
00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:11,760
it's the same with people who

1640
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:13,119
potentially are dyslexic

1641
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:14,720
how can you look at a word and see in a

1642
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:16,240
different order to me it's not written

1643
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:17,839
down in that different order

1644
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:19,200
so then you just take that a step

1645
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,200
further and how can something be there

1646
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,280
that i can see but it is there

1647
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:25,280
yeah any different realities how can a

1648
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,800
different reality exist in the same

1649
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,400
spaces as

1650
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:30,400
and that's where 70 years ago you start

1651
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:31,760
blowing up nuclear weapons and

1652
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:33,680
you know what you can't see them but

1653
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:35,839
they certainly felt that nuclear blast

1654
00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:38,160
they felt ripples from it and that's

1655
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:39,440
where they started getting in touch with

1656
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:40,720
us just to bring it back to that and

1657
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:41,680
that's the way i think that could

1658
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:42,880
potentially

1659
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:45,520
a to b to c to d yeah well that's what

1660
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:46,480
uh

1661
00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:48,240
yeah harris was kind of saying i think

1662
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:50,559
uh her in jacquez violet

1663
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:54,240
valet kind of thought it was a warning

1664
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:57,040
or a hint or a hey watch what you're

1665
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:58,720
doing because

1666
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:01,359
a nuclear blast would for sure affect

1667
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:02,400
another dimension

1668
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:05,040
that's you know well i mean i'm not a

1669
00:54:08,390 --> 00:54:06,800
scientist but you would have to imagine

1670
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:08,400
you know just because you can't see this

1671
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:10,640
stuff doesn't mean you don't affect it

1672
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:14,000
you know yeah so when we're out there

1673
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:16,000
kind of destroying

1674
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:18,480
you know our earth putting crap tons of

1675
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:21,119
plastic in the ocean

1676
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:23,359
you know making deals with oil companies

1677
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:25,040
say hey yeah we'll just put the spill

1678
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:26,640
off in the ocean you cool with that

1679
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:29,920
yeah okay yeah like what

1680
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:32,960
you know um yeah

1681
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:35,280
i don't know there's so many places this

1682
00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:36,000
stuff can go

1683
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:37,599
too because we don't know and that's

1684
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:40,400
kind of one of my reasons

1685
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:43,839
i want transparency is because so many

1686
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:44,240
people

1687
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,680
fill in these blanks with their own

1688
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:47,760
stuff what they want it to be

1689
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:51,040
or what they're scared of and

1690
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:52,559
you know some transparency would at

1691
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:54,160
least give us a nice uh

1692
00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:57,599
baseline to go off of you know

1693
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:59,440
i think when it's in what what you

1694
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,960
assume is happening is in your head

1695
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:02,640
still you have an element of control

1696
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:03,359
over it

1697
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:05,200
because it's what you think and it's how

1698
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:07,119
you and it's that back to that tv thing

1699
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:08,559
of the final episode

1700
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,480
once it comes out of what it is you lose

1701
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,000
a lot of that control because

1702
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:14,000
okay even if it is what you thought it

1703
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:15,200
becomes real

1704
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:16,880
and it's now suddenly a problem to deal

1705
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:25,030
well how do how does your family take to

1706
00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:26,640
it

1707
00:55:33,270 --> 00:55:32,079
spaceships and he'll tell me he was

1708
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:33,280
outside looking for

1709
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:35,280
for ufos and stuff like that or if the

1710
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:36,400
moon's out you'll always be like oh i

1711
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:38,240
think i saw a ufo or a spaceship flying

1712
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:38,960
by and

1713
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:40,000
do you know what you talk about the

1714
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:41,200
visible light spectrum maybe a

1715
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:42,559
five-year-old does see that and we just

1716
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:43,599
don't you know

1717
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:46,480
you don't know um but like he's got a

1718
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:47,760
really open mind to it and my little

1719
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,000
girl

1720
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:49,920
has as well and if they see if i'm on

1721
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:51,920
youtube and it's got the podcast logo on

1722
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,720
youtube

1723
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:54,319
not that i watch i don't watch myself

1724
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:55,680
for anyone thinks that that'd be weird

1725
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:56,079
right

1726
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:58,480
but maybe you do sean i don't know but

1727
00:56:03,190 --> 00:55:59,520
yeah well

1728
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:03,200
i don't i don't

1729
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,200
i i don't listen or watch back right but

1730
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:06,960
the locals here my little girl go oh

1731
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:07,599
look at

1732
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:10,880
your podcast ufo podcast so i want my

1733
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:12,640
kids to be able to grow up and

1734
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,960
it's funny like my my wife doesn't like

1735
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,319
the fact that when my little boy comes

1736
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:18,559
home and in school they've talked about

1737
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:20,960
god and my little boy will be like daddy

1738
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:22,480
you know god made the world and i'm like

1739
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:23,839
hmm i don't think so

1740
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:25,119
and they'll be like oh he did and i'm

1741
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:27,520
like what did they say and he's like

1742
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:29,119
then they talk about jesus and stuff and

1743
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:30,559
i'm like yeah what about the aliens then

1744
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:31,680
who made aliens

1745
00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:34,480
what and i just i just i'm not at five

1746
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:35,200
i'm i'm not

1747
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:37,280
you know pushing that on him but i have

1748
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,200
no problem with my kid in school

1749
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:41,200
asking you know what about other planets

1750
00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:43,119
and other you should be species

1751
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:45,920
to be curious yeah yeah completely i'm

1752
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:46,880
not religious so

1753
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:49,359
i think i'm i'm trying to raise the kids

1754
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:50,720
not to be you know like oh

1755
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:52,160
it's all aliens and stuff but you know

1756
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:54,000
just think about that because i hope

1757
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:55,760
that's going to be part of their reality

1758
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:56,880
growing up as you know what there's

1759
00:57:02,470 --> 00:56:58,640
something else out there

1760
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:02,480
yeah so how does it look to you though

1761
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:04,960
you know i i don't think in the next

1762
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:05,680
five years

1763
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:07,200
it's going to be a case of we can look

1764
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:09,280
back and go we now know everything where

1765
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:10,640
all these things are from why they're

1766
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:11,119
here

1767
00:57:14,309 --> 00:57:12,720
i think it's going to be a process over

1768
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:14,319
a long time but i think in the next

1769
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:15,359
couple of years

1770
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:18,079
we are going to have the acknowledgement

1771
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:19,839
that there's something else out there

1772
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:21,680
and over the course and it might still

1773
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:24,079
be decades we'll find out more and more

1774
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:25,440
and we'll investigate

1775
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:27,359
and you might get that kind of mass

1776
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:29,760
sighting but it's on the news

1777
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:31,760
where something flew over something and

1778
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:34,240
here's here's the daylight hd footage of

1779
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:34,799
it

1780
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:38,000
coming out going yeah we'll tell you

1781
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:40,559
what that is will probably be at a point

1782
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:42,559
our governments can go you know what we

1783
00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:44,000
don't know what that was

1784
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:46,160
um but we've got scientists still

1785
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:47,680
looking into it we've got the task force

1786
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:48,880
in the us you know

1787
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,799
the new russian chinese group are

1788
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:52,319
looking into it as well and we're all

1789
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:53,920
working together to work out where these

1790
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,960
things are from

1791
00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:56,480
that's that's what i would like to think

1792
00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,160
could happen in a a realistic scenario

1793
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:02,319
you know and that's i think the key is

1794
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:03,839
to be okay with being wrong

1795
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:08,720
too um

1796
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:10,559
i think it's gonna get maybe scary for a

1797
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,920
lot of people um

1798
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,200
there's so many different things that

1799
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:15,599
people hang on to as truth and

1800
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:18,319
you just can't possibly know so i think

1801
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,960
you know

1802
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,720
in order for this to be a good thing for

1803
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:22,480
your kids or you know hopefully i'll

1804
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:23,680
have kids

1805
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:25,359
it's going to be important that we don't

1806
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:27,359
tear each other apart and we treat this

1807
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:28,480
with an open mind

1808
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:31,599
and be okay to be ignorant

1809
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:34,640
you know like we have to treat this as a

1810
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:35,200
kid

1811
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:37,760
with that kind of curiousness like we

1812
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:38,880
don't know what it is

1813
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:41,440
but it's exciting and i'm gonna figure

1814
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:42,319
it out

1815
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:46,160
you know like and maybe there's

1816
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:47,839
why that there's so many stories about

1817
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:49,440
kids in this stuff

1818
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:51,280
because their imaginations aren't

1819
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:52,799
hampered and damaged

1820
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,760
and beaten up yeah you know see i love

1821
00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:57,200
that approach to it and that thinking

1822
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:57,520
that

1823
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,799
the kids are more open-minded um

1824
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:02,720
i would like to think that it does

1825
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:04,000
change the world for the better

1826
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:05,920
a little bit just acknowledgement if and

1827
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:07,680
when we get the un coming out and it's a

1828
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:09,200
worldwide acknowledgement not just the

1829
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,799
us because that still throws up

1830
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:12,400
conspiracy theories but people to be

1831
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,960
able to say

1832
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,720
you know what there's something else out

1833
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:16,319
there and it's not just us

1834
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:17,359
let's start being a little bit more

1835
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:19,280
careful a little bit more sensible it's

1836
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:21,359
not going to change the world overnight

1837
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:24,000
because we know people people aren't

1838
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:25,119
like that right it's going to take

1839
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:26,480
generations but

1840
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:27,599
just to get people having the

1841
00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:29,359
conversation and that awareness that you

1842
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:30,640
know what we aren't alone

1843
00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:31,760
and there's other stuff out there that

1844
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,960
might be a little bit bigger and better

1845
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:34,640
than us yeah and that's okay because

1846
00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:35,440
people need

1847
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:37,359
something to look forward to like kind

1848
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:38,799
of circling back to what we were saying

1849
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:39,920
before

1850
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:42,319
um you know maybe some people don't want

1851
00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:43,760
disclosure because

1852
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:46,240
you know there's not that thing anymore

1853
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:47,520
yeah but you know so

1854
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:50,480
a slow well you know as long as it's

1855
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:52,160
organically slow and we're figuring this

1856
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:54,240
out one step at a time i think that is

1857
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:54,880
just a

1858
00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:56,720
so such a positive thing because it's

1859
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:58,559
something for people to look forward to

1860
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:01,119
and team together with i think a lot of

1861
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:02,880
the reason the the mainstream news has

1862
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:04,240
an issue with this is because it is

1863
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:05,359
bipartisan

1864
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,640
and they don't know how to report on

1865
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:08,400
something like that

1866
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:09,920
so hopefully we can get our [\h__\h]

1867
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:11,760
together

1868
01:00:14,789 --> 01:00:13,359
and do this the right way but i've had

1869
01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:14,799
you for an hour now

1870
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:17,520
um and i don't want to take up any more

1871
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:18,640
of your time

1872
01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:21,680
is there anything that you want to leave

1873
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:23,119
us with anything you want to say

1874
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,799
talk about anything coming up um

1875
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:28,559
no thank you for everyone that's been in

1876
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:29,680
the chat i've been kind of keeping an

1877
01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:30,640
eye on it as well and

1878
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:32,799
um i like scott's point now about being

1879
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:34,000
taken out at san disco

1880
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:38,160
yeah um but thanks to anyone who listens

1881
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:39,920
to the podcast or checks out

1882
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:42,000
um what you're doing sean i i really

1883
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:43,119
like sean because

1884
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:49,109
yeah you well that you know what you

1885
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:50,319
don't have to try because it's you

1886
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:51,839
that's that's the difference so

1887
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:53,920
yeah if you have to like if you feel

1888
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:55,200
you're sitting trying then you're

1889
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:56,400
probably trying to be something you're

1890
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:58,160
not and that'll come across so

1891
01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:59,359
just sit and be you and have your

1892
01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:00,720
conversations the way you're doing them

1893
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:01,839
because

1894
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:03,280
there's a lot we can go back on and talk

1895
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:05,280
about with this but there's a lot to

1896
01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:07,040
talk about and the discussions there

1897
01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:08,480
there's different viewpoints different

1898
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:10,319
opinions if people haven't yet go and

1899
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:11,119
listen to the

1900
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:13,119
listener collins who i've just done and

1901
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:14,160
which was a lot of fun

1902
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:16,240
um and hearing people talk about it was

1903
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:17,920
really refreshing

1904
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:20,000
and that kind of old radio style almost

1905
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:22,480
of you know hi caller what's your point

1906
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:24,000
and people do want to know in the world

1907
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:26,000
different yeah basically i feel like

1908
01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:27,359
frasier at one point yeah

1909
01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:29,599
um so it was that was really really cool

1910
01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:30,799
as well so

1911
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:32,160
for me i'll i'll keep doing what i'm

1912
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:33,680
doing as long as people are interested

1913
01:01:36,789 --> 01:01:34,799
and people keep listening

1914
01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:36,799
um they know where to find me and i'm

1915
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:38,079
always up for a conversation

1916
01:01:43,589 --> 01:01:41,520
either on mass or or one to one so

1917
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:43,599
um but yeah it's been good to be honest

1918
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:45,280
i'll happily come on again anytime you

1919
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,839
want

1920
01:01:49,349 --> 01:01:47,839
oh awesome well tomorrow we're starting

1921
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:49,359
at one again so

1922
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:51,280
i'll i'll shoot you the stream yard

1923
01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:56,069
i was gonna say seven o'clock i've got

1924
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:58,000
tim mcmillan tomorrow so i'll try and

1925
01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:59,680
keep it just for the family and my wife

1926
01:02:01,829 --> 01:02:00,480
not killing me

1927
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:01,839
i'll try and keep it to one interview a

1928
01:02:05,109 --> 01:02:03,760
day but yeah i'm speaking i'm speaking

1929
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:05,119
at tim mcmillan i should advertise

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actually now yeah

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tim mcmillan tomorrow um that should be

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pretty fun and then i've got oh this is

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a good one i've not announced this yet

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but i'll give you this

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andrew gallimore who is a name a lot of

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people might not be familiar with but he

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is a

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an expert in psychedelics and especially

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dmt as a drug as a gateway drug

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consciousness and ufos he's going to be

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at contact in the desert but he's coming

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on my podcast next week all the way from

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japan

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and he is going to be talking about dmt

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as a gateway drug and all that kind of

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stuff so that that'd be an interesting

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conversation yeah

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everything's advancing weeds not even a

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gateway anymore it's dmt

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it's basic that's basic stuff now uh

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well check out

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uh idiot that ufo podcast who's been

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doing it for a while he's got great

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guests a lot of great things to say

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so i appreciate you coming on thanks

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scott

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all right i'll let them go all right

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guys how you doing

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was that a good show yeah

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no all right well if you were watching

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yesterday we called

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senator warner right

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and we got an email so today

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i sent an email and

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nothing happened but something's going

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to happen

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so i want to make a call now but we want

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a little over

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and i'm late for something so um

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i promise you i'll make it up to you

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okay um i really appreciate you guys

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again coming watching and you know

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what we need or if you guys like how i

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do this

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uh i could really use your help to share

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this stuff

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um whether it's on twitter or if you

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guys have a facebook that's cool

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um get people to subscribe to the

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channel and

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follow me on twitter and stuff and you

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know then we can keep doing this

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and yeah i'm having a great time though

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and

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regardless so thanks alien girl um i

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really

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am grateful that you guys are here

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watching this stuff so uh it's

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pretty special for me contact me on

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twitter or anything if you have any

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questions um

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i'm open to that so

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um just don't uh stalk me

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you know but i guess you can't do that

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that could be interesting

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i don't know what that was

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i was saying i'm getting tired guys

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peace

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we'll see you tomorrow uh

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we got the man behind the singularity

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lab

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and tomorrow's a later show it's uh

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gonna be well just check out my youtube

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link i can't keep track of all that

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all right see you guys

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[Music]

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we can't touch life

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we can do something